Budgie cere colour change

by Alex
(London, UK)

I have an adult female budgie who I took to the avian vet as she was in breeding cnditon and was excessvely pullng out her chest and abdomen feathers.

He anaesthatsed her and implanted a hormone implant in to the the left hand side of her chest. This was mid January.

In the past week I have noticed that her cere no longer shows breeding conditon which is good, but the cere is rapidly going white. It appears to be getting whiter daily.

Is there a reason to be concerned and visit an avian vet or is this normal?

I have never heard of a white cere on a budgie before.

Also she has stopped her picking since the beginning of this month, and most feathers have come back, but some ar still missing and I can't see any signs of pins or new growth. She has small bald patches.

Will these just take some time or could there be something underlying?

Thank you.

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Feb 27, 2013
cere colour
by: Alex

Thanks Dr B, I have contacted the vet and he will check everything is O.K.

Feb 27, 2013
Budgie with cere color change
by: The Avian Vet

Cere color change is likely due to the hormones that were implanted. You should have your bird rechecked to be sure all is OK with the implant. It will take time for the feathers to regrow. The hormones will affect this too. Be sure to follow up with these questions with your attending clinician, too.

Dr B

Feb 27, 2013
cere colour
by: Alex

Hi Linda, to anser your questions, no the vet did not other tests to rule anythng olut.

He said he may do blood tests at a later stage, but felt they were not required at that time.

He was sure that t was a brood patch that had been plucked to the extreme.

Thanks for the response, I will look in to getting her re-examined.

I do not want to breed my birds, plus that would be impossible as I have 2 females.

Feb 26, 2013
Budgie cere colour change
by: Linda

Did the Avian Vet rule out all other possible causes for the plucking like being sick? Were tests done to see if she had any bacterial or viral infections? Was blood work done to see how organs are functioning? If you said no to any of those questions, your bird needs to be thoroughly examined by the avian vet. Having a chip implanted in a bird who has not been adequately examined is the entirely wrong way to have gone.

It may be that the chip never needed to be there in the first place. There are other ways to handle this breeding stuff other than exposing birds to dangerous anesthetics and chips. Birds do not have to breed because they are sexually mature. They never have to breed at all. Only humans think they have to breed because they can not because they are fit to be parents. Since we call the shots on bird, dog and cat breeding the correct answer is to not breed them.

The cere turning to white may be a side effect from the drugs in the implant. Female Budgies start out with blue ceres gradually turning to a light tan and then to a darker brown when old enough to breed. Surgery is not necessary when a bird becomes sexually mature.

So, yes, you may have a serious problem here, and I recommend going back to the Avian Vet for a thorough exam to see what is what with this bird. The implant could actually kill her since it is not natural to put implants like this into birds.

As for feathers coming back in. Once feathers have been plucked too many times, the areas will stay bare of feathers forever. The feathers may not ever grow back if she has been doing this for a while.

Let us know what avian vet has to say about your bird's health because if she is sick or borderline with any organ function the implant might just kill her with side effects.

Linda

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