Double Yellow Head- Tried Killing Himself After Wing Surgery- Is this normal?

by Kat Kiel
(Houston, TX)

Double Yellow Head Amazon

Double Yellow Head Amazon

I had a double yellow head age 32, he had been my pet for 29 years. A year ago (2011) on Christmas I noticed his wing hanging, took to the vet and he had a fracture in the smal bones. They taped him up for a few weeks and after if was removed he apperared fine.

Exactly one year later I noticed his wing hanging again... my regular vet didn't have anyone to see him so I was refereed to another vet. I got an appointment right away, they review the previous year's xrays and took new ones, the fracture was still there.

Given options of pain meds and letting it try to heal or surgery, I opted for surgery. They placed external pins in the wing to hold it in place, we had weekly recheck visits, everything was prceeding well. Then on 1-17-13, they were to re xray to dertemine if the wing had healed and would remove the external pins.

I left him there, they called and said all looked well and that I could come and pick him up in a few hours. Then I get a call that he had some how complete broken a major bone to the point it was sticking out of his skin, the vet called of course another surgery was in order. I received a call about an hour later to tell me that when he awoke from the second surgery that he was very aggitated and biting at the new wound area ( "like he was trying to kill himself"), I was told he had broken 2 major vessels and that they were trying to stop him from bleeding out before they decided what further to do with the wing. I hadn't heard from them in over an hour I called and was told he had passed. This is a very reputable vet clinic, I have a very sick feeling that he was not watched properly for something like this to happen. I know this isn't going to bring him back but if I can help one other bird owner his life would not have been in vain!

Question: Would a double yellow head try to kill himself after surgery? any additional thoughts on the entire situation is sincerely appreciated!

In loving memory of EWOK!

Kat

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Jan 20, 2013
Double Yellow Head- Tried Killing Himself After Wing Surgery- Is this normal?
by: Linda

Kat, first of all you are absolutely correct in your assumption that they did not take proper care of him. He needed to have a collar put on him as soon as he was awake and moving about to keep him away from the wound. Your bird woke up in pain, and animals and birds try to remove the painful area if possible. This has nothing whatsoever to do with suicide because animals do not think in abstracts, so something like suicide just cannot be a part of their thought processes.Pain and agony are things they feel, and react strongly to, so he just did what he thought best to get out of pain.

No, this was caused by the fact that proper procedure was not followed with your bird. He was allowed access to this horrible wound, and the results are death. I would find another Avian Vet or any future medical services for birds. You did not say this was an Avian Vet, and if you took your bird to a dog and cat vet, you simply got what they do to all birds which is kill them slowly or kill them fast. They are not licensed or trained in the care of birds and will overdose them on meds and/or do surgery when it is not needed. The list is long on what can happen to a bird at a dog and cat vet, and the end result is death.

So, hopefully you are talking about an avian vet. In any case, do not use this vet again. I had a dog and cat vet almost kill one of my dogs some years' ago from a botched surgery, and my dogs do not see this vet anymore. It is heartbreaking when this kind of thing happens, and my heart goes out to you. I firmly believe your bird's death was due to improper post surgery handling. He should have never had access to wound site, and instead cut himself up because he did.

Linda

Jan 19, 2013
Double Yellow Head- Tried Killing Himself After Wing Surgery- Is this normal?
by: D Singh

Kat, it's D Singh again, according to what you said, it seems as though you did not take him to an AVIAN VET the first time? The second time you took him to another vet and you left him there. You noticed his wing hanging, took him to the vet and he had a fracture in the smal bones. They taped him up for a few weeks and after if was removed he APPEARED fine.
Exactly one year later you noticed his wing hanging again. You said YOUR REGULAR VET didn't have anyone to see him so you were refereed to another vet? You got an appointment, they review the previous year's xrays and took new ones; fracture was still there.
Given options of pain meds and letting it try to heal or surgery, you opted for surgery. They placed external pins in the wing to hold it in place, he had weekly recheck visits, everything was prceeding well. Then on 1-17-13, they were to re-xray to determine if the wing had healed and would remove the external pins.
THIS PARAGRAPH BELOW, BOTHERS ME TOO.

Then they called and said all looked well and that you could come and pick him up in a few hours. Then you got another call that he had some how complete broken a major bone to the point it was sticking out of his skin? The vet called of course and another surgery was in order. Then you received a call about an hour later to tell you that when he awoke from the second surgery and he was very aggitated and biting at the new wound area ("like he was trying to kill himself") You were told he had broken 2 major vessels and that they were trying to stop him from bleeding out before they decided what further to do with the wing.

WHY DID HE BECOME MORE DAMAGED AND WAS BLEEDING WHILE HE WAS IN THEIR CARE?

Then you didn't hear from them in over an hour you were told that he had passed. THIS IS VERY STRANGELY SOUNDING AND LIKE A PUZZLE, AND A PART OF THE PUZZLE IS DEFINITELY MISSING HERE, MY DEAR. Please look in to this Kat.

Jan 19, 2013
Double Yellow Head- Tried Killing Himself After Wing Surgery- Is this normal?
by: D Singh

Hello Kat, I'm so very sorry for your dear bird and for your loss. I can't say enough to ease your pain and I know that you're hurting a lot. I don't think that Ewok killed himself. Intuition tells me that something definitely went wrong while he was in THEIR care.
If he was my bird I'd have taken his body to ANOTHER AVIAN VET for a necropsy to know the cause of death. It could be that he wasn't watched and he was neither in a SAFE PLACE and fell and caused more damage to his already damaged wing. It could also be that he was over medicated before or after the operation or it could be the wrong medication was given.

Anytime a bird has a bandage he or she WILL try to take it off by pecking because it bothers them. I DON'T THINK THAT A BIRD WILL DIE BY PECKING ON HIS BANDAGE AT ALL. Another thing, why didn't they call you when he died. Why did they wait until you called them and then tell you that he passed? Certainly I'd want to know exactly why he died and I'd not think of the cost, if I do have the money. Although nothing can bring him back, knowing why will put my wondering mind at rest. I'd also think that I'd owe him that much if he was my bird.
I've two birds and if one dies with only an injured wing, I'd want to know for sure how it happened. Especially if they didn't call me when he passed but waited until I called them to be informed. I've one daughter whom I adore and I love my birds just as much as her; there's no money that I wouldn't spend to put my heart at ease where THEY ARE CONCERNED, although they may be gone. Take care of yourself Kat, my heart goes out to you and I'll be praying for you both. God bless.

Jan 19, 2013
My heart goes out to YOU!
by: Anonymous

I am deeply sorry for your LOSS, although I have not heard of this, I imagined that the poor thing was in sooo much pain, he didn't know what to do with himself. Sometimes after our own surgeries we are in pain with pain meds and the difference is that we can communicate about. When your bird woke up, everything must have hit him hard including the fact that you weren't around, he was in pain, didn't understand what was happening and felt completely vulnerable to the situation. Having PINS and BROKEN bones is NO JOKE. I think in a strange way he was trying to remove the PAIN or PROBLEM that he did not understand. I read once that a bird that had his toe stuck somewhere literally chewed itself out to get out of a situation. That must have been painfully horrible, so I believe that this natural and crazy instincts to try and RID themselves of the torment is natural but he had a very rough ending indeed. I don't think he would have lasted too longer regardless. Again I am sorry and I do hope that someone here can answer some questions and share some vital points concerning something so great like this. My heart goes out to you. xxxx

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