Introducing Conures - Fighting

by Mario
(New Jersey)

Hi, First, let me thank you for taking the time to read and answer these questions. It is greatly appreciated. There is a very long story, with many details, and should you like I would love to speak with you about it. This question is regarding introducing birds and fighting.

I am primarily interested in fighting. I understand that with multiple birds (4) there will be fighting, one must be top birds and the others must know that. The problem is, I can't bear to watch them fight, nor do I really know enough to know if someone will get seriously hurt. I separate them as soon as they start and they are punished with either squirts of water or small cage.

I don't get the impression that they'll stop fighting when they start. Their wings are clipped so they can't really fly away from one another. There's not much information on introducing two new birds to two old birds. They're all male. One old bird and one new bird seem to get along great. The other old bird wants to attack both new birds. The other new bird wants to attack both old birds. Are there any specific rules in introducing multiple birds:

1. Should I do it 1 to 1?
2. Should I encourage the old and new that get along? Would this make the other old bird even more jealous?

This is such a dynamic situation and there are so many variables, that we can't seem to come to an understanding of what needs to be done. Your advice would be great. Thank you.

Mario

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Nov 04, 2012
Best Friends Now!
by: Mario

I just wanted to let you all know that it is possible with patience! All 4 birds are best friends now. They live in the same cage peacefully. We divided the cage with a plexi glass for a few months and slowly let them play with one another outside of the cage and eventually within the cage. After about 8 months they all started to get along well. I make sure that there is always plenty of food and multiple eating stations to avoid fighting.

Just wanted to let you know...


Mar 21, 2012
CAGES
by: Anonymous

They should all have there own cages ---

Mar 21, 2012
4 male conures? in the same cage...
by: chaydel

.....naturally attempting to mark out territory for themselves, and you don't think to separate them?

Separate them, please, before they kill each other. They are doing what instinct demands that they to do. (If two of them get along (for now) try keeping them together, but watch them carefully. When the baby get older there could be a problem.)

Mar 20, 2012
Introducing Conures - Fighting
by: Linda

You have gone about this all wrong. You do not introduce any new birds into a cage with any other birds. Fighting is NOT normal and will result in many serious injuries and death.

Separate every one of your birds into their own cage and do that right away. For 4 Conures, you need a very HUGE cage with separate feeding/watering stations for each one. When I say huge, I mean a cage 8+ foot by 8+ foot all the way around and inside. In this case, you've thrown a bunch of birds together without regard for whether they will get along or not, and this is wrong in so many ways. Separate the birds and keep them that way. If they are fighting, it means they are either in too small a cage or they simply hate each other. In wild bird flocks, there is not this kind of fighting because injured birds are dead birds. They try and work out their differences and have plenty of room in which to do it without being trapped in a cage.

YOU are the flock leader not one of the birds. You make the rules, and you are supposed to understand captive parrot behavior before even having birds. I'm not trying to be nasty with you, and I AM trying to help you to understand that you need to learn a lot more about birds.

Your birds are suffering because of your misconceptions, and they will continue to do so. The dynamics here are bad because these birds should never have been thrown into same cage together. Birds have to get to know one another from separate cages before putting together. This can take a year or more, so separate them into their own cages and try to introduce no more than one more bird into cage with another. Too many birds will cause fighting even if they basically like each other.

Humans are the same way when overcrowded which is illustrated in crowded inner cities where everyone fights for the upper hand in places way too crowded with people. The animal and bird world is the same for captive pets which is what all our pets are. They are given areas and not wide open spaces, so overcrowding is dangerous for all concerned.

Thanks for writing and good luck in your continued studies about parrot behavior.I also hope you understand that I'm only here to help and have a lifetime of experience with birds to fall back on, so I know what works and what does not. Take care and let us know how everything works out.

Linda

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