my baby sun conure's crop is not emptying on time ??

by Nabeel
(Pakistan)

Hello Sir ! I just got a 4 week old sun conure baby from my friend who bought it for hand feeding and could not do the job so gave it to me. I have a little experience as I hand fed my Indian Ringneck too (now he is 2.5 years old) , but still I told him I am not an expert and he should not have bought such a young bird.
When I got him, his crop was full around 3 pm. The whole day his crop was emptying very slowly and it completely got emptied by 7 next morning. After that I fed him a small amount of baby formula around 9 AM and he seemed to do fine. His crop completely emptied by 3 Pm and then I fed him again. But since then the same thing happened and his crop is emptying slowly. Its now 5 30 AM over here and his crop is close to empty now.
I want to ask why is this happening and what should I do to make him digest fast. Unfortunately The Place where I live does not have any avian vets available (only dog,cat vets are here who do not deal with birds).
Other than this he seems fine and also moves around the box where I have kept him. His dropping are green with white in it and some liquid too.
Please tell me what should I do !! Any sort of help will be appreciated. Thanks !

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May 08, 2009
Go to Vet
by: Anonymous

Same advice as before. Take bird to vet asap. Until you know what is wrong with him, he will continue to get sicker. It is not uncommon for baby birds to have bacterial infections from the nest, so please take him to a qualified avian vet. The longer you wait, the more likely he is to die. Also make sure you are weighing him everyday with a bird scale measured in grams. If he is not gaining weight every day, he is SICK!

Hope you have already taken him to vet, and he is on the road to recovery.


May 08, 2009
Found a vet
by: Nabeel

Hey thanks everyone for your replies. Fortunately I found an avian vet although he is quite far but I went to him.
He checked the bird and said that the bird has some sort of bacterial infection. He has given medicine to the bird and now the baby is doing pretty good.
Other than this he said your bird is healthy and its a good thing that it is eating fine.

I am so happy that my baby bird is fine now and the droppings have turned to normal.

I hope it remains healthy and grows into a beautiful bird in the future.

Thanks.

May 05, 2009
Take Your Bird to Vet
by: Anonymous

I agree with the Vet's comments. You will lose your bird if you don't follow instructions and take your bird to a qualified Avian Vet for proper testing and diagnosis. Breeders are NOT vets, and are prohibited by law from dispensing medications for a bird who has not been properly diagnosed by a Vet. If you do not have a vet close to you, then you will have to drive to one with your bird.

Your bird will not last long under the present circumstances. You do not know what the problem is and neither does the breeder.

Take it to the vet or take responsibility for losing your bird.

Hope this helps because YOU are now your bird's guardian with all the responsibility that entails.

Regards and Good Luck

May 05, 2009
Crop stasis
by: The Vet

Never take medication from a breeder. They are neither qualified nor licensed to dispense medications.

Maybe the medication caused the watery and abnormal droppings?

Before a treatment can be recommended, a diagnosis needs to be made, and only a veterinarian can do that. But, the vet has to see the bird and take samples for testing. Legally I cannot recommend a specific treatment unless I examine your bird. I cannot recommend any holistic treatment, either.

The constant begging is a problem, too. You need to get some qualified help for this bird soon.

Are you weighing your bird daily? What is his weight? Going up? Going down?

How much are you feeding? How often? What are you feeding? ...

Dr B

May 04, 2009
Nabeel
by: Anonymous

Thanks Dr B and others for your reply.. Fortunately one of my friends new an experirenced breeder and he helped me out by giving me a medicine. I fed him that twice a day and now he is fine.
But now he is having another problem. He is digesting his food on time but his droppings have turned watery ( I must say extremely watery). Sometimes they are watery green and sometimes yellow. That breeder gave me another medicine for loose droppings but that has not made any difference. I tried to thicken his formula a little bit but the problem persists.
Other than this he seems healthy and gives a good feeding response when I go to him (he always wants food and thinks I will feed him..lol).
Please tell how can I solve this problem and tell me any natural thing I can give him to cure him from this problem.
Thanks

May 02, 2009
Crop stasis
by: The Vet

Crop stasis in baby birds is common. It can be caused by the formula (poor quality formula or homemade formula), by the temperature of the formula being to low, by viral, bacterial or yeast infections, by over feeding, by the temperature of the brooder being too low, and by several other things. Are you weighing your bird every morning to determine if he is gaining weight? What do his droppings look like? What are you keeping him in? How many feedings a day is he on? .......

Dr. B

May 01, 2009
Slow Digestion in Baby Birds
by: Anonymous

It sounds like you are doing a good job under the circumstances. Hopefully, you are feeding a wholesome baby bird formula with no additives or preservatives. The only other thing could be the temperature of the food. Baby birds cannot digest food at room temperature. It must be heated to a temperature similar to what a human baby may take. If using the microwave, don't heat much at all, and check it with your finger for hot spots that can scald a baby's crop. Also, you can test food you think is ready by putting some on your wrist or other soft part of your lower arm, just like when feeding a human baby. If it is too hot for you, it is too hot for a very soft, delicate crop. Too cold a food will cause slower digestion, and will eventually cause bacteria to grow in the crop which can kill the baby bird.

If you are not sure of what I've explained here, go out on the internet and do a google search on hand-feeding baby parrots, and you can find more information. Hope this has helped you.


Apr 30, 2009
(Contd)..
by: Nabeel

I forgot to mention that the white is there in some droppings and some droppings are pure green in colour (sort of dark green) with liquid...

Apr 29, 2009
probiotics
by: Anonymous

I'm not a vet and I have never hand fed a baby but I have read that you should give probiotics such as Bene Bac when hand feeding as well as weaning baby birds. My best advice would be to go back to the breeder an ask them for help.

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