my parrots got in a fight and one has a bit eyelid.

We have a number of parrots (6), and while they were out playing yesterday, our 2 green cheek conures went after our hahn's macaw, I didn't realize both conures were on the cage of the Hahn's, and while I was dealing with the one conure, the other one and the Hahn's went to the floor. I spun around and grabbed the other conure, and his left eyelid was bit, split , and bleeding. I hwrapped him in a towel, and held his eye closed and put a tiny antiseptic on the wound at the top so it wouldn't get in his eye.

The split appears to be healing closed, and I know he can see out of it because he will look at me through that side and if I move toward his head he will move it and close the eye. There looks to be a spot of white film at the front top edge of his eye that moves when he closes it and I am worried about that. I have put tiny mostining eye drops on the eye to make sure it is lubricating, I just need whatever advice I can get. My girlfriend thinks he will be fine, I am still a little sceptical.

We have called all the listed avian vets within 100 miles of us and never gotten a response at all so there was no vet around I could have called and gone to see.

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Jun 04, 2013
thank you for the help.
by: Anonymous

Thank you again for the information and web sites, I will be trying to set something up as I would like them all to go for a check up. Also I will be looking into the dvd as well. The swelling has gone completely from around the wound, he is not keeping the eye closed and there is no discharge, and there hasn't been any at all. He really isn't favoring the eye, and we have been holding him when we lubricate the eye then wiping any excess off of his feathers so he nor any of the other birds could ingest any of it. I have done cursory tests like moving a finger around in the area that would have been effected and he recognizes my finger, if I move toward his eye with the finger, he will either move his head or close the eye so I don't believe there is a real vision problem. The wound on the eyelid seems to be healing well, and there will be no more taking things for granted with them all out together. Thank you again.

Jun 04, 2013
DVD on Avian First Aid
by: The Avian Vet

Unfortunately as you know you are in an area that is completely devoid of avian veterinarians. Of course I found a few, as you probably did, but they are some distance aways, as you have said. If you want to find one that is at least within driving distance, then check these two sites for their veterinarian search;
Www.abvp.com
Www.aav.org.

Sorry I was not able to assist further.

Monitor the eye for swelling and discharge. IF he is holding it closed, then you should drive to someplace. If not and there is no discharge, then he may have been fortunate enough to not have been seriously injured. Next time he may not be so lucky.

If I may, please allow me to make a recommendation. Since you do not have access to immediate veterinary care, you may want to purchase my DVD on Avian First Aid. This covers several emergency situations, including eye injuries, and how to handle them at home. Read more at Avian First Aid DVD

Dr B

Jun 03, 2013
more info for the Dr.
by: Anonymous

The area code is 14701, we actually don't usually let them out unsupervised and they generally act as a flock. Thank you for your advice it is helpful. I can say at this point, the eyelid has seeled itself and is healing well, he hasn't been favoring that eye or blinking excessively or keeping it closed. We were lubricating the eye and cleaning any runoff because we were afraid of ingestion, we haven't needed to put any other antiseptic on the wound as the swelling has gone away and there doesn't seem to be any look of puffyness or physical signs of infection. Like I say in the couple years we have been raising birds, we have tried numerous times to find an aviary vet inside a reasonable distance and haven't been able to find one even for checkups and going 3 or 4 hours one way with 6 birds is overwhelming to say the least.

Jun 03, 2013
Parrot with torn eyelid
by: The Avian Vet

This is potentially (and likely) a very serious situation. I cannot diagnose or recommend treatment without being able to examine your bird. There is a good chance that he has a scratched cornea, which is very painful and can lead to blindness and possible enucleation (eye removal). This is the worst scenarios but also the most likely if appropriate treatment is not administered soon.

Further more if his eyelid is lacerated, then it may need to be repaired, and monitored to be sure that is does not develop adhesions to the cornea, particularly if the cornea is damaged. At the very least he is in pain. I recommend that you continue to call veterinarians until someone is willing to see him. You can even search for a veterinary ophthalmologist at a specialty hospital. Where are you located? Please share your zip code and I will help you find someone.

You should not put anything on the wound that is not meant for an eye since the lesion is nearly in the eye. The medications could enter the eye if the lid is lacerated through-and-though; and if not, then it will be blinked into the eye, or rubbed in when your bird wipes its eye on his wing. Greasy ointments should never be used as they cause the feathers to not work properly and they are very difficult to clean off. In an emergency first aid situation, saline eye drops are acceptable and necessary. However, over-the-counter human or animal (non-bird) medications should not be used.

Given that you have several birds, you are familiar with their behaviors. Even though you were standing right there, and it does not apply in this case, I recommend that multiple birds not be left out unsupervised. Regardless of how nice they are to each other, or how much friends they seem to be, inevitably accidents will happen. The results of these accidents come into my hospital regularly, involving birds that 'have never had a problem, and loved each other'. Birds are territorial and typically do not like to share.

Dr B

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