over medicated?

by Larry
(brewster ma)

My budgie was having breathing problems so I brought it to a avian vet. she was there for 3 days....they gave her zithromax 0.04 and itraconazole 0.25 every day for 3 days..then I get a call that she die....do you think she could be over medicated?

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Oct 14, 2009
Lessons Learned: Weigh your parrot, antibiotics
by: Linda

We are devastated with the loss of our 11 yr old red-fronted macaw, Simone, who my husband and I knew would embrace our lives into retirement. He was the best of the best, the loud one, and unlike our other wonderful parrots, he always welcomed interaction, and verbal communication , and wanted to play ALL the time. Our grief is new but I want to share some lessons learned:
1) Weigh your parrots weekly! We used to weigh our foursome weekly until we moved - our scale broke & we hadn't replaced it. Weighing him might have caught his illness earlier.
2) Find the best avian vet quickly, and establish one if you move. Our first vet ? very experienced w/birds but not a board-trained avian vet - put him on antibiotics, the next avian vet thought his severe pneumonia was fungal and said the antibiotics had caused more harm. He may have died anyway, as he hid his sickness at least awhile, but DO react immediately.
3) I've had deaths in my person family - and our first parrot death feels the same. The deep love we have for our parrots brings deep pain at their deaths - but it's still worth it, I think?.
4) Notice any change in energy levels. My hubby and I had both gone through a very busy period & in hindsight, could have noticed he was quieter. I know we're beating ourselves up, but take the few minutes to take stock, and give your parrots some undivided love and attention today.

Where we could use some thoughts - Simone was in love with our blue and gold macaw, who treated him like a little brother. She?s sleeping a lot and keeps her head tucked her head when we cry, so we know she?s going through her own grief. We?re going to change the format of the room they were both in, give her special attention, including the walks she so loves, but if anyone has healing tips for our whole flock and our now quiet household, we?re open?.

Oct 14, 2009
Budgie death
by: The Vet

I am sorry to hear that your bird died. No I do not think that the medication was the cause. I recommend that you have a necropsy (animal autopsy) doe to determine the cause of death.

Dr B

Oct 13, 2009
over medicated
by: Linda

Larry, though over-medication is always possible, Avian vets are trained to know how much to give depending on size of bird. If you waited to take your little bird to the vet, even for a few days, after she appeared ill, then that could have contributed to the outcome. Small birds go down with an illness much faster than larger birds, and even the larger ones go down quickly. Once birds have illnesses like pneumonia or something else equally as bad, their little lungs just cannot pump enough oxygen in the blood to all parts of the body. Do not blame yourself though as you did take her to vet and that was the right thing to do. Learn from this experience, and grieve the loss of your little friend. Do not spend any time blaming yourself or others as this is a waste of energy.

We are very sorry for your loss, and before you get another bird, please clean out cage, perches and all toys and dishes really well. You can use 1 teaspoon of bleach per gallon of water, and this will kill anything in or on cage or perches and toys. Be sure to rinse very, very well with clear water as bleach sometimes takes a while to rinse off. With the 1 teaspoon per gallon of water, it will be easier to rinse off. Leave cage and all in the sun to dry if it is a nice day. Once cage, perches and toys are cleaned and aired out, you could get another bird if you are ready for one.

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, SO READ IT CAREFULLY. IF YOU GET ANOTHER BIRD, MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITH AVIAN VET SO IT CAN HAVE A CHECKUP TO MAKE SURE IT IS IN GOOD HEALTH. Birds sometimes develop infections when being moved from one place to another, so don't take any chances with this one. Vet will check for infection, parasites and probably do a little bloodwork to make sure your new bird is healthy.

Thanks for writing, and we are so very sorry for your loss. We have all been where you are, and the pain of loss will get better as time goes by. Finish grieving before you bring a new bird in, so you are ready to give your new bird all your heart and not just part of it.


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