Surgery to remove abscess in conure abdomen

by Camille
(Fairfield, ca)

My bird is scheduled to have surgery on Friday oct,23,2009. He recently had liver failure due to poor diet. We have since fixed his diet and gave him 30 days of injectible antibiotics. He is much better and healthier now. But my vet said he thinks my bird may have an abscess or open infection in his abdomen because of how his fluid that was drained from his abdomen looked.

I guess my question is... Is the surgery right for my bird? And what's his survival rate for this type of surgery? He is only 6 months old. I'm very worried, but my vet told me if I don't let him have the surgery that I will probably find him dead very soon one day.

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Oct 24, 2009
Sun conure surgery update
by: Camille

Ok. So my bird had his surgery. My avian vet saw nothing in his abdomen. He did tell me that his right air sac was full of that green fluid that the vet has been draining from his abdomen and a bunch of black chunky stuff in there. My bird baby who is a male known through DNA testing... Survived and is very excited to be home. I have to give him two injections of pepericillan a day for 20 days. The vet said he thinks he may have some type of fungal or bacterial infection in his air sac.. So we r sending off his cytology and blood to a lab to be tested. I'm not sure what an infection of a birds air sac entails.... I just have to wait and see I guess. If anyone knows more about why this happens or what treatments are please let me know.

Oct 23, 2009
Surgery on a Conure
by: The Vet

I cannot answer this question without more information. I would like to see blood work results, x-rays, and fluid analysis and cytology on the fluid from his abdomen. I would also like to examine your bird. If there is an abscess in your bird?s abdomen, then surgery may be the only option. Surgery is always risky, even in a healthy bird, and since your bird is not healthy, the risks are higher. However, the risk of death is higher still if nothing is done. Your bird is young and that is to his benefit.

Anesthesia is an added is an added risk but an experienced avian veterinarian should be able and ready to handle any situation. However there is always a chance that your bird could die under anesthesia during the surgery.

There are other things that could be in the abdomen. Do you know this is a male from DNA sexing. If not, then this could be an egg in the abdomen (ectopic), or an egg bound bird. I am surprised that he is diagnosed with liver failure at such a young age. This is very rare. Are you sure of the age? What was the diet?

Dr B

Oct 22, 2009
Surgery
by: Linda

Well, for one thing, your email was very bare as far as details are concerned. Animals with liver failure die and don't come back. A compromised liver leading to liver disease is another story though not with a particularly happy ending.

What tests has the vet done to pinpoint what the supposed growth is and where it is? I do not think surgery is a wise choice at the present time. I believe you should get a second opinion about this or supply us with facts as to why vet thinks this is an abscess or whatever. Surgery so soon after a compromised liver situation is not recommended, and could hasten his death.

Request all his records from your present Avian vet including any xrays or other studies and make an appointment with another Avian vet in your driving area and take bird and all his records in so you can get a second opinion as to how to proceed. The liver damage you're talking about takes years and years of eating a bad diet to happen. Your bird is too young for this unless he has been accidently fed poison at some point which damaged his liver or he was born with a bad liver which can happen. It is true that parrots don't live as long as they could eating bad diets, but they still live longer than this and finally succumb to kidney and/or liver failure.

So, if it were me, I'd get a second opinion before allowing bird to be operated on. If liver is severely damaged beyond repair, bird needs to be humanely euthanized not cut on. I realize you may not see this before tomorrow, and I hope you have made the right decision on your own. I'm not saying your present Avian vet is wrong or anything like that, I would just like a second opinion myself. The drugs given for surgery will hit bird's liver very hard, and it worries me.

Let us know how everything works out.
Linda

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