The PBFD - how long will it linger in a home?

by Linda
(Nokomis, FL)

I purchased 2 (4 month old) baby lovebirds. I only had them for 3 weeks. I had them tested and they came back positive for PBFD and I immediately returned them to the breeder. Now, I would like to purchase a new bird from a more reputable breeder. Every person I talk to (including vets) are telling me different answers.

I'm willing to discard their cage, toys and anything they came in contact with. I had my house cleaned, top to bottom - but I cannot have anyone use a toxic chemical in addition to all I've done. I've been told that I have not done enough - So my question is, how long will this virus linger and will I ever be able to bring a new bird into my home? Thank you.

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Feb 19, 2010
Home swab for PBFD
by: Linda

Thank you both for your helpful comments. As you suggested, I would like to take swabs in my home after cleaning and have them tested. Exactly how would I do that, and where would I send it to??
Thanks again, Linda

Feb 19, 2010
The PBFD - how long will it linger in a home?
by: Linda

Hi, it is Linda again, and I'm happy to see that Dr. B responded to your question with far more accuracy than I did. I was wrong on many points, and went out and found an article you may find useful about this disease.

http://www.theparrotsocietyuk.org/index.php/Veterinary_Advice/8

Thanks again for writing, and I've made a copy of Dr. B's response for future reference.

Linda

Feb 19, 2010
The PBFD - how long will it linger in a home?
by: Linda

Very understandable that you are concerned, and should be. Tracie carries an excellent cleaner out here that is non-toxic and kills every pathogen known to man at this time(except some that man has made to kill our supposed enemies). It is made by a company called Pet Focus and is called Mango Cleaner. You can either buy the concentrate or the already mixed kind. Follow the directions on bottle, and you will not need goggles, gloves, and room air is fresh enough to use it. It is a no rinse kind of cleaner, so don't throw your cage out, just clean with the Mango cleaner, let sit for a while and then you can rinse it off if cage has not been cleaned off yet. You may want to wipe some more on cage with a damp cloth or sponge and allow it to dry.

Go ahead and throw away any wooden perches or toys. Plastic and metal toys and parts can be cleaned with the Mango cleaner.

You can clean your walls, windowsills, hard floors tables, etc with the mango cleaner. I'd rinse it off of metal.

Get new natural wood perches, new toys, if feeding and water dishes are plastic, discard them and use stainless steel or just new plastic cups would work fine.

Once all that is done, you should be ready for another bird. You may wish to clear all I've said with an Avian Vet because I'm not a vet and have never had to deal with PBFD. I suggest you ask your next breeder if birds have been tested for PBFD BEFORE buying. If not, make that exam a part of the buying requirements. It is just too heartbreaking to bring these little guys home only to have to watch them die before our very eyes! I recommend you NOT buy from a pet store because all their birds are sick with one thing or another.

The Mango cleaner needs to not be sprayed around cage while birds are present. Just put a little on a cloth or sponge when time to clean their cage, perches and toys.

Many Blessings to you and hope your next birds are happy and healthy. I'd make sure they are tested for infections and/or parasites while they are getting their PBFD test too. You can offer to pay half of the visit which would make any reputable breeder more agreeable with your conditions. Be sure and clear this with Avian Vet because PBFD is a viral infection and can be in the very air for a time period I don't know about. Just read them my instructions and see if they concur. Actually, we have a vet here who answers some questions, so maybe Tracie can run this by him and save you some extra time.

Keep in touch with us about how everything goes, and many Blessings on you, your family and your new birds.
Linda

Feb 19, 2010
PBFD question
by: The Avian Vet

The PBFD virus can remain viable in the environment for may years. Baby birds are more susceptible and are likely to become infected if exposed. An older bird is less likely to develop infection, but it can still happen.

Cleaning and disinfecting the house is a good start. You will need to dust diligently, empty your vacuum bag, and you will need to change all of the filters in your HVAC system and any air cleaners that you have going. You need to discard everything that these birds came into contact with ? toys, cage, perches, etc.

If the surface is disinfectable, i.e. non-porous, you can clean it with soap and water, then disinfect with 10% bleach and allow to air dry on the sun for a few hours. You can do this to the cage and it will be more safe, but not guaranteed to be free of the virus because it will linger in the smallest cracks.

My next suggestion would be to test the environment to see if the virus is still present. Use a sterile swab and sample the walls, floor, return vents, top of window sills, etc. to see if you can find the virus. If one swab is positive, then clean the house again. Use a disinfectant that has spectrum against this virus ? bleach (10%), stabilized chlorine dioxide (Oxyfresh), and gluteraldehydes. No other disinfectants are useful.

The breeder needs to be informed, and they need to stop selling birds until they get this outbreak under control.

Dr B

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